Voice of the Masses: What’s next for Firefox?
|It’s been a topsy-turvy few years for the Firefox web browser. Competition from Chrome, interface redesigns, integration of services like Pocket, and the controversial adoption of Adobe’s DRM module have pushed many to consider other browsers. Now Firefox developer Dave Camp has outlined a plan for the project going forward, saying that the team needs to focus on polishing existing features and removing cruft. Firefox should deliver a “personal experience” with more control over online privacy.
So for our next podcast, we want to hear from you: what does Firefox need to do, in order to maintain the lead? Does the team need to work on performance issues, or slow down the rapid release cycle, or something else? Has Firefox merely turned into a clone of Chrome, so you’ve switched to Google’s browser instead? Or does Firefox need to be replaced by a new, lightweight browser written from the ground-up? Let us know your thoughts in the comments below and we’ll read out the best!
Lower idle CPU usage, and hence less battery drain. If Firefox is not focused/visible it should basically use no CPU. Currently some background tab can be running some heavy javascript or animation, and there is not even any way to figure out which one. It used to be worse in the days of having flash installed, but its still a problem now.
Stop bloating it with tons of feature’s that anyone will barely ever use just for the sake getting out another release.
Firefox doesn’t need to change, it doesn’t need compete with Google. They need to forget about competing for market share and just focus on begin stable and supporting open standards.
Any fancy new features that might be useful to some people could easily be supported as plugins.
First of all Mozilla should make Firefox the best, the leanest and the meanest browser it can possibly be.
Mozilla should then concentrate on being the focal point for championing the open web, net neutrality and protecting our privacy.
I use Firefox because I like Firefox, but I also use it because using Chrome means compromising my privacy and sharing personal details with Google.
When I want to be extra careful with my privacy I use the Tor browser, which is a customised Firefox browser.
If Firefox wants to remain the poster-boy for Free Software it needs to remember that Free Software is about Freedom.
Become more efficient, not everyone has the most speediest of computers and also become a DRM free area. If no one enables Digital Restriction Management the users of it will cease to sell their wares. (If I can loan a book to a friend, I should be able to do the same with its electronic equivalent.)
Firefox needs a (relatively) small group of members of the Mozilla community that creates a simpler and better version of the browser. Like, when in 2002, Phoenix (a much better name than Firefox, I have to say) was created. Just choose the core features and make them better.
I remember using Phoenix and Window Maker in 2002 fondly.
Unfortunately, at least for me, Firefox can only do one thing to leap itself ahead of the pack – and that’s to not be Chrome, whilst simultaneously, Chrome does something horrific.
A While ago, Firefox was bloated and slow, and Chrome was lithe and fast. Google sign-on and useful, integrated Apps have kept me with Chrome, even though it has admittedly slowed down (though I haven’t been bitten as hard as some have in this regard). I am, at this point, fully immersed in the Chrome/Google ecosystem, and it would take Chrome or google doing something incredibly wrong for me to make the effort of jumping ship to another browser, which would in all likelihood be Firefox.
Firefox should focus on its core: having a quick and lightweight rendering engine that makes browsing a fast and joyful experience. It should have less rather than more features, but allow extra features to be added by extensions. And Mozilla needs to remain our spokesperson and our last hope for the open web and open standards. Chrome is nice and fast, but is open only to the extent that it suits Google’s business interests. Mozilla should stand above these things.
Firefox is the only major browser that is not corporate, so it can concentrate on security and privacy for users. Do that, and keep it lean, and I will keep using it forever.
Add sharks with frikkin’ lasers!
Where firefox really lags behind is in the area of video support. Every other major browser has fully working MSE support (which allows javascript to pass video content to the video element), thus allowing for DASH streaming implemented in Javascript. Firefox’s support is still experimental only, and when enabled still is not at the point where for example the DASH reference client will work. Video is more important to many browser users than it has ever been (hence EME DRM support making it into firefox), so firefox can’t afford to lag behind.
While I don’t want to kick this particular hornets net, on the DRM front it would be good if firefox is keeping the DRM sandbox, then adding support for Widevine or Playready would be helpful. Few content providers want to keep Access+ around once flash has gone, and Widevine and Playready gets providers most browsers so few providers will want to run Access+ just for firefox.
They need to work on improving their responsiveness and dropping background processes, like Sam said. They are actually working on this, one of the newer features in the Firefox Dev edition and Nightly builds is what they’re calling Electrolysis – separating browser code & page code.
I use Firefox as my main browser because I like it, it’s fast enough, and I’m not worried about having my data shared through the browser to some mega-corp that just cares about marketing my data back to me in the form of ads.
I also use Firefox because it’s less of a memory & CPU hog than Chrome, but that may not be as true as it once was.
Finally, for all the backlash and hate the project has been getting in the past few months over the addition of Pocket integration and enabling of DRM playback, I think they’re still a shining beacon of a project and have done wonderful things for the FOSS world.
I use Firefox as my main browser because I prefer it for my general browsing life, I do however use Chromium for my dev work because I prefer the dev tools – probably because I’m used to them. Firefox doesn’t populate the 100s of tabs I leave open until I click on that tab, helping with memory usage – something chrome doesn’t do. In terms of browsing I don’t think there are many differences most people would notice.
It does make me sad that the movie industry is enforcing DRM into our browsers. Maybe one day they will realise that having content easily accessible is the key to reducing piracy. Yaaarh.
What made Firefox great in the past? It was better than IE, geeks used it, and that filtered down to Jo Public. It feels like they’re heading that way again with the privacy/security angle, this is definitely a path to forge in my book and should be continued down as far as possible.
I’d be really happy if firefox:
1. stopped chewing up my cpu while it’s minimized
2. stopped using a gig of ram after a couple of days, necessitating a restart
3. stopped aping chrome’s interface
There is no good browser right now. Firefox WAS brilliant, but they just couldn’t leave it alone. I abandoned it when it started to simply hang for no very good reason. I assume it was related to resource over-use, but monitoring and alerts and prevention measures are better than just hanging. I also didn’t like changing the look and feel just for the sake of it. The lady on the “Tech for Luddites” page has a theory that a product reaches its level of incompetence. It hits a peak of usefulness and becomes well-loved, and in a fit of hubris the developers have to keep tweaking it and bloating it until it become just horrible. The problem is particularly bad with “free” software, because they can simply ignore the outrage. Google Maps is a case in point. As bad as Microsoft is, by selling their stuff, they have to respond to user discontent. Hence Vista was replaced with Win 7 and Win 8 with 8.1 . My beloved usable Firefox which never used to hang, tabs on the bottom had to go because security fixes got tied to “up”grades. So I use Chrome now. I will move to the next efficient browser that provides sufficient functionality as soon as it becomes available.
I use Firefox exclusively, so I really do care. I,d like to see Firefox go to a release model similar to Ubuntu. Let them keep their whirlwind release schedule if they want to, but give us an LTS with REAL support. Their current “Extended Releases” merely guaranty security fixes. I want an LTS that will fix all the freakin’ bugs, and keep fixing them until the end of support is reached. Preferably this would be 18 mos or more.
Please Firefox, I’m beggin’ ya. Just fix the bugs, and don’t add anything else that could potentially have bugs. Just the bugs… so many bugs.
Firefox needs to stop putting proprietary garbage in their browser. Now I use lynx, the only browser that will stay open forever!
What Micah Denn and Kevin O’Brien said.
Firefox is great, I use it all the time on PC, phone and tablet. If they make it even better, well done to them.
I am more than happy with FireFox and DuckDuckGo at the moment as they are free enough. I would consider moving to IceCat but I have no compelling reason to do so as of now.
Off topic but if you print any more mugs can you put the RMS cover picture from Feb 2015 on them. That would be awesome.
Integrate/improve security/sandboxing/privacy features like NoScript/CertificatePatrol/Ghostery, etc.
Having a browser that I know I can trust not to do malicious things and warn me when someone else tries them is paramount.
And removing proprietary plugins, championing open standards, and removing unnecessary cruft (like chat & whatever that paper airplane thing is).
They could also do a lot worse than putting some resources back into Thunderbird development – I think there are still lots of cool things they could do with email. But I think they spun that out of the Mozilla Foundation a while back, didn’t they?
A version for the Ubuntu phone is high on my list of things to do, but I may be alone in thinking this. I think Firefox is doing the right thing. Bloat reduction without feature loss is nearly impossible, but there should be a period when features are not added or removed, but where the focus is purely on performance and reduced resource usage. An integrated ad blocker would be the second most useful thing for me.
Firefox should slim down!
Back when Chromium came out, it took a large chunk of the market share simply because it was *fast*. By focusing on performance, Firefox should be able to recover it’s old positioning. And they might even be able to encourage people with older hardware – including older mobile hardware, perhaps – to use their browser instead of a whatever outdated piece of crud they are using currently.
Just do what Pale Moon is doing:
https://www.palemoon.org/
Classic Firefox user interface bliss with low CPU cycles.
Most FF extension do work with Pale Moon: http://hamwaves.com/firefox
By the way, here is a link to my page with the most commonly used UTF-8 codes: http://hamwaves.com/utf-8
If they are really for privacy, I wish they could make it easier for us to reduce our uniqueness in digital fingerprints. Hide or spoof what fonts/addons/OS we are using.
Tricky. Sometimes measuring identifying characteristics like screen width is necessary to make sites work.
Spoofing the user agent and referral header to something common is a good start for the paranoid
1. Use less resources.
2. Inspect WebSockets in networks tabs of the Inspector.
I don’t claim to know what Firefox should do, but I am a longtime user of Firefox (since 2006). Over the last year or so, with each new release, I find myself going into about:config to undue changes Mozilla is making. I’m happy to have the ability to make these changes; however, it is simulataneously troubling that Firefox is adding all this stuff I want no part of.
A sampling of some of the changes I’ve had to make to new releases:
-disable openCisco plugin
-disable Hello
-disable Pocket
-disable icons in the search-bar
-set new pages to about:blank
Some recent changes I do like (even love):
-dark theme (fantastic!)
-memory improvements (fantastic!)
longtime features I really like and hope stay:
-Search Bar
-Tab Groups
-ability to disable Auto-Complete in the address-bar (hate Chrome for not allowing this)
-numerous about:config privacy/security settings (e.g., ability to disable prefetch, ability to require OCSP)
Please don’t do this. If I wanted to use Firefox 31 ESR with a few uplifted patches, I’d do it myself. I also don’t want you to start pretending you’re faster when it’s all just a placebo, or to remove the ability to easily send you crash reports just because some people have a chip on their shoulders about it. I especially don’t want you to turn off your test suite, and ship Firefox while pretending it’s stable and “better”.
How difficult can it be? I switched to pale moon because:
– It doesn’t force ugly UI’s I don’t want on me.
– It doesn’t force extensions I don’t use anyway on me.
– It lets me organize my own browser.
– It lets me run the extensions I want.
– It doesn’t insult me with corporate crap language.
So:
More browser, more freedom, less bloat, less crap. Elementary, one should have thought. I won’t return.